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Old 03-17-2009, 03:53 PM
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I am new to the diesel truck game but have been a gearhead for a long time.

I have a 2001 F-250 7.3 Powerstroke.

I want to know what I would need to do to run Jet-A or if I can even run it. I have searched several forums to no avail. Now if you think this is a stupid question I ask you to not post and just flame me in private.
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Old 03-17-2009, 05:16 PM
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There is one guy who runs it. Tank! I don't know if he adds anything to run it.

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Old 03-17-2009, 05:54 PM
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i dont see why u cant run it, but u might want to run some additive in it to keep the fuel lubed properly.


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The 7.3 will run on nearly any "commerical" fuel, Jet-A, JP8, #1 and #2 diesel, any grade kero, etc. But you should run a lube additive like Stanadyne Lubricity Formula or something similar. I run it even with regular old #2 as the "new" ULSD doesn't have nearly the lube quality as the older sulfur fuels did.
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Guys thanks so much for the good info. I have access to ALOT of Jet-A and would like to tap the resource. I will look into the additives.

And second do you think that running half and half diesel would be ok until I got a good supply of additives?
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No, #2 diesel is already bad enough as it is addin Jet-A will only make it worse. Will it work? Sure will. But it'll hurt the injectors after a while - no major failure but they won't produce the fuel they should any more. It's your 2000+ dollar set of injectors. Not worth risking for a 2 bucks a tank for some lubricity additive.
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Ok got you. I will get the additive first. Thanks.
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No it's not a bad question. International came out with a service letter in 1997 about it because all of the airport service vehicles using it.

TSI Number: 97-12-09
TSI Date: April, 1997
Subject File: ENGINE
SUBJECT
Release Split Shot Fuel Injectors for International T 444E and DT 466E 1997 Model Year Electronically Controlled Engines

SUBJECT
Split Shot Injectors are also Compatible With JP8 Jet Fuel
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Engine Family: T 444E DT 466E

DESCRIPTION
A new split shot fuel injector and electronics are released for selected International T 444E and DT 466E engines. The new fuel injector is compatible for use with JP8 jet fuel as an alternative fuel, effective January 6, 1997, on selected engine applications; refer to Table 2 for engine models.

This injector has been designed to provide a two stage injection shot. The first shot, or pilot injection, begins the initial combustion within the cylinder. This is followed closely by a second fuel shot which completes the combustion process. The double shot extends the combustion time for a more controlled pressure rise in the cylinder, thereby reducing combustion knock and oxides of nitrogen emissions.

Production of the new split shot fuel injector started with T 444E United Parcel Service applications engine serial number 432842. All other T 444E applications began with engine serial number 460195. The DT 466E engine starting serial number with the new injector is 1028711 for the following applications: Std. torque 175, 190, 210, 230 hp and high torque 195 and 210 hp.

The new fuel injector, together with all seals and O-rings, are available in service packages as shown in Table 1 .


PARTS INFORMATION
Fuel Injector Service Packages Engine
Injector Package Part Number
Injector Assy. ID Part Number
Character Reference ID*

T 444E 1824583C94 1822803C1 or 1825125C1 AB

DT 466E 1829839C91 1829926C1 or 1829837C1 BE

*ID part number is NOT a service part number. The ID part number and character reference are etched on the top of the injector assembly solenoid.

IMPORTANT: These injectors cannot be substituted for prior production injectors because of changes to the electronic control calibration required to operate the new injectors. Previous injectors will still be available for service, refer to respective engine parts catalog.

Effective January 6, 1997 JP8 jet fuel will be compatible as an alternative fuel with 1997 Engine Model Year selected International electronically controlled engines that also specify code 12WCE (ENGINE FUEL IDENTITY International Engine With Capability to Use JP8 Jet Fuel). Code 12WCE is a no charge option. NOT all engines are available with all models. The engine model year is shown on the emission tune-up label installed on each engine.


Engine Codes Compatible With Fuel Identify Code 12WCE T 444E ENGINE CODES
DESCRIPTION

12NDX
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T 444E) 49 State, 210 hp @ 2400 rpm, 485 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NDY
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T 444E) 49 State, 210 hp @ 2300 rpm, 520 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NDZ
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T 444E) 49 State, 230 hp @ 2300 rpm, 605 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NHS
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T444E) California, 210 hp @ 2400 rpm, 485 lb-ft torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NHT
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T 444E) California, 210 hp @ 2300 rpm, 520 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NHU
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T 444E) California, 230 hp @ 2300 rpm, 605 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NHW
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T 444E) 49 State, 175 hp @ 2300 rpm, 430 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NHX
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T 444E) 49 State, 190 hp @ 2300 rpm, 485 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NHZ
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T 444E) California, 175 hp @ 2300 rpm, 430 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NJA
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T 444E) California, 190 hp @ 2300 rpm, 485 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NJN
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T 444E) California, 250 hp @ 2300 rpm, 650 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NJP
ENGINE, DIESEL (International Electronic T 444E) 49 State, 250 hp @ 2300 rpm, 650 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

DT 466E Engine Codes (Std-Torque)

12NHA
ENGINE, DIESEL (International DT 466E HEUI Electronic) 50 State, 175 hp @ 2300 rpm, 430 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NHB
ENGINE, DIESEL (International DT 466E HEUI Electronic) 50 State, 190 hp @ 2300 rpm, 485 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NHC
ENGINE, DIESEL (International DT 466E HEUI Electronic) 50 State, 210 hp @ 2300 rpm, 520 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

12NHD
ENGINE, DIESEL (International DT 466E HEUI Electronic) 50 State, 230 hp @ 2300 rpm, 605 lb-ft Torque @ 1500 rpm, 2500 rpm Governed Speed

DT 466E Engine Codes (High-Torque)

12NHE
ENGINE, DIESEL (International DT 466E HEUI Electronic) 50 State, 195 hp @ 2300 rpm, 520 lb-ft Torque @ 1450 rpm, 2300 rpm Governed Speed

12NHG
ENGINE, DIESEL (International DT 466E HEUI Electronic) 50 State, 210 hp @ 2300 rpm, 605 lb-ft Torque @ 1450 rpm, 2300 rpm Governed Speed

12NJJ
ENGINE, DIESEL (International DT 466E HEUI Electronic) 50 State, 195 hp @ 2300 rpm, 520 lb-ft Torque @ 1450 rpm, 2400 rpm Governed Speed: Use With MT-643 & MT-653 Transmissions Only

12NJK
ENGINE, DIESEL (International DT 466E HEUI Electronic) 50 State, 210 hp @ 2300 rpm, 605 lb-ft Torque @ 1450 rpm, 2400 rpm Governed Speed: Use With MT-643 & MT-653 Transmissions Only






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Old 03-19-2009, 04:21 PM
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Thank you. That is awesome info.
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But what IH didn't tell you was that while the orings may be compatable the injector life will be SIGNIFICANTLY reduced. We never got more than 5000 hours out of any of our 466E's running Av fuel alone. Started using Stanadyne lube in them and the injector life went back to what our on road fleet using #2 500PPM sulfer (at that time) was seeing which was about 22-26k hourse (or around 300k miles).
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